Everyone who claims to be Christian and refuses to tell us how he copes with the demands of Matthew 5-7 is just a bigot and will burn in hell forever.

Edit: Uhm, no.
But it'd be really interesting, because these are some extraordinary demands. It's easy to eat no pork, but how do you comply with that? I'd honestly like to know.

@Polybios
note that each of those demands are to protect human Christians and keep them strong in body and mind. failing to follow them has its own "punishments" associated with the deed. basically it makes you weaker and or leave you variable for other things to happen to you when you face hard times.

I did no such thing. I just pointed out that all these anti-homosexuality bible quotes are strangely absent of even mentioning homosexuality. And you've combated that by not supplying a quote to the contrary, but rather more incredibly vague quotes about other things, things which your average Christian or whatever else doesn't complain about, are evil and people that are doing those things are sinners.

But, I'm doing that all in good fun. I just like to debate and poke holes in things. Maybe I should have been a lawyer instead. Anyways, even if the bible did say in no uncertain terms that homosexuality is wrong (which so far you guys have done a terrible job supporting), I still wouldn't care. I don't subscribe to your religion, I'm still going to be attracted to women (it's not a choice, in the same way you don't choose to like/dislike mustard), and it just doesn't matter either way. You're more than welcome to live your own life in any way you choose, whether through your own free choice or that of your cult-of-choice's book, and I won't raise issue with it so long as its within the law and not infringing on my own rights.

And you people wonder why you have any trouble winning over anyone that actually questions these things...

@GullRaDriel

you need to have your self a bong hit.
Every thing is logical there is no need for emotions.
A man is to a woman what a women is to a man.
I don't believe in relation ships that don't work anymore. the relation never worked in the beginning.

if you don't come to terms to make something work for the rest of your life's; don't start it.

Society has been poisoned and confused by the vile celebrity marriage.
that in its self distorted what marriage truly is.

marriage is not a game or some faze you trough in life.

marriage is a bond made between a man and a woman to endure life trial and tribulations while growing closer to the Lord God and producing children to Grow in his name.

you are only getting mad because you lack upstanding of what you call "real life" you know not the forces that influence you.

The world around me has certainly not "gone to crap". I'm very comfortable and people mostly die from accidents or disease where I live here in Canada. I know it's not so crappy there where you are either
This "land of sin" we live in is one of the greatest spots on this rock to be living in right now. We have our problems, as do all places, but to attribute that to not following the bible is ludicrous and just silly. Of course, I understand that the world isn't like this everywhere and that other people have a very hard time. Those daesh bastards like to stone people because it is written in their special god book. They've been known to throw gay people from buildings, too. I would never hope a nation goes back to the dark ages like the people of that region have been pushed into, and that our forefathers had to bear through when the lords of their lands decided to follow the bible as if it were a book of law. Those were not better times than now at all.

Yes. Yes it is. Very much so.

That prove you didn't have that much relationships.

I know one who will end lonesome with his right hand has a wife. Pro tip: a reversed left hand is like a stranger hand.

I would really love to compare my lack of understanding and yours. And there are no force influencing me. I'm not a believer.

Marriage isn't a christian thing from the start. It's a pagan tradition that have been adapted. Where do you think the ring and sail thing are coming from ?
In other country it was common for some people to marry only for a defined time period. (i.e the Celtes who renewed their wish each year). The church made it a sacerdoce.

Neil:
Because your couple life is a charm doesn't mean that it is the case with everyone.
Now I'm asking myself if you really love your woman, or if you only do love her and defend her because the book told so.
In the book it's also stated that you have the right to hurt your wife if she does not follow your orders.
Are you hurting her with no remorse in that case ? (Ephesians 5 22-24)

Is she talking in assembly ? she shouldn't (Corinthians 14 34)

Is she asking things to someone else than you ? she should't (Corinthians 14 35)

Be good with your wife, I hope she's good with you.

I didn't clearly stated that quantity bring quality. But staying in a relationship that have no future is dumb, whatever the reason. That was my point ;-)

The system influences us all, I give you that.

Time sure are changing, I somewhat agree with you on the last block of your answer.

You forgot a few verses in that, I wonder why you stopped at verse 24? Lets find out, shall we?

Ephesians 5:25 (NIV)
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her”

Ephesians 5:28 (NIV)
“In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.”

Ephesians 5:33 (NIV)
“However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.”

Colossians 3:18-21 (NIV)
Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord.
Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them.
Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord.
Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged.

Now show me where in all these scriptures that it gives the husband the permission to hurt her without remorse?!

My wife never did. But then, I no longer attend churches because none of them seem to obey this law as well as others. But I 100% agree with it, why wouldn't I? I don't question the laws of the Almighty. Certain members in here attend churches that have female ministers, maybe you should ask them how is it they can have that when this verse clearly states they should not instead of asking me, I agree with this verse, apparently they don't read the bible they claim to believe in.

That doesn't say she can't ask someone else outside of the church, it says she is not to speak in the church, not even to ask a question but to wait until afterwards, outside of the church. But anyhow, no, she does not. Because we don't attend churches, so not a problem, but yeah, she understand to obey, so if she is told by the bible not to talk in church, I guarantee you my wife would not. She is not a rebellious, feminist wife, she's loving and obedient. And she gets that love right back. So you're barking up the wrong tree pal. I actually obey my bible. You probably assumed I was a Sunday keeping "christian" who doesn't obey it. You are wrong, I study my bible in depth and know it far better than you do, guaranteed!!!

1 Corinthians 14:33-35 states: "As in all the churches of the holy one, women should keep silent in the churches, for they are not allowed to speak, but should be subordinate even as the law says. If they want to learn anything, they should ask their husbands at home. For it is improper for a woman to speak in the church."

That's what hurt women! And all the misogyny that relates to what Paul wrote. I believe it's possible to raise a boy to a misogynist. Just let him live in a society, which relies heavily on the 2000 year old view on women. I see a lot of it in the American lifestyle, where the husband is supposed to support his wife economically.

That's your interpretation. So it's just some sort of spiritual means? By the way, who are the non-human Christians?

Neil, you have raised your voice loudly to spew out some random Bible quotes that are largely irrelevant to the teachings of Jesus anyway.
However, when you're being asked about something more substantial, you remain silent.
I assume you, too, notice this discrepancy?

By the way, the Bible is quite harsh about bigots. Some of my favorite quotes (it's been a while, there are probably others/better ones I don't remember / can't find right now).

Now, you guys who take everything literally will probably say it has been a while that you made your last "burnt offering"...

Edit:
About the women: They have better education today and therefore more to contribute. Why shouldn't they if they want to? Because old Paulus said so?

I take the bible literally, because that it how it is meant to be taken.

As for burnt offerings, I assume you mean sacrifices. They are no longer necessary. Sacrifices were always a shadow of what Christ would eventually do for us, they showed the future. Once Christ appeared and sacrificed Himself for us, the shadow is no longer needed. Christ IS my sacrifice, that is why He is referred to the "lamb of God" and in fact, God himself states that he does not particularly like sacrifices, but prefers mercy and obedience. Notice the following verses...

Hosea 6:6 (NIV)
For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.

Psalm 51:16 (NIV)
You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings.

Psalm 40:6 (NIV)
Sacrifice and offering you did not desire—but my ears you have opened—burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require.

Isaiah 1:11 (NIV)
“The multitude of your sacrifices—what are they to me?” says the Lord. I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals;
I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats.”

There are many more like this, and note that most of these are from the Old Testament as well, so this was nothing new when Jesus arrived.

And the verses you quoted I love those, for they are talking about people who would keep pagan traditions and man made celebrations, flagrantly disobey God, then come to Him with sacrifices to "make it all better". They wouldn't even try in most cases to obey God and not keep these pagan traditions, but just keep them anyhow with the idea they could sacrifice later! THAT is what those verses are talking about. People would use the sacrifices as SIN FREE card. Much like Sunday keepers use God's grace as a SIN FREE card today. People celebrate Christmas and call it christian when it is pagan in origin. People will be celebrating Valentines day soon, and then Easter, all pagan in origin. God prefers people to actually obey Him, or at least TRY. So I totally understand the verses you quoted, I have quoted them for decades now against celebrating Xmas and Easter, which I do not, nor ever have celebrated since I moved out of home at the age of 17.

Also, no, I do not answer every question in here because most of them come from hateful people who only wish to attack God, attack his word, make fun of it and ask a nonstop barrage of questions to me without answering any of mine. Then if I do answer, from my bible (where the hell else am I supposed to answer from?!) they attack me for quoting the bible. So I have mainly focused on conversing with fellow believers and, for the most part, ignore the mockers, I could care less what they think about me or God.

As usual, this is a never ending round of bickering, arguing, attacking and mocking. Utterly pointless. Just a whole lot of hate, which I despise.

I think it's great you believe in God (I see no denial or inconsistencies with that), but the literal interpretation of the Bible is presently not sitting well with me at all. God wrote "The Bible is lying." thousands of times across the universe. Why do you ignore His direct work? Or, conversely, why did He make everything (plate tectonics, radio carbon dating, red shift, fossil records, magnetic striations, viable mutation rates, etc.) seem to indicate that many words in the Bible were direct lies? Why did He create the universe to look exactly like it was far, far older than claimed in the Bible? A test of faith? Is this like He seems to have created Adam to look like a young adult when he wasn't yet a day old? Seriously, what is your literal interpretation of the Bible perspective on this?

(I'll try and keep this as brief as I can without sacrificing the meaning as to not wander into too-long-didn't-read territory.)

Firstly, I'm an atheist. Unless proven otherwise, I take the stance there is no god (or gods) and trying to find proof for the existence of such or against the existence of such beings isn't worthwhile (or perhaps even possible). However, I do explicitly believe there is no Christian god, just as I believe the Greek pantheon does not exist. It's an issue of the Christian god being impossible within the observable world of ours due to claims made by the Bible...

The first, and most important, issue is the very real problem of evil (and therefore sin). The Christian god is supposed to be all powerful, all knowing, and perfectly good--yet evil exists. The Christian god has the means to remove evil and even prevent it from ever occurring, yet he does not. Why?

The Christian god could still allow the concepts of temptation and evil to exist, but have made the world (being he is all powerful) in such a way that while these options present themselves, we as humans never give in to the temptation and therefore always make the good (according to Christianity) choice since the god is all knowing. Alternatively, evil options would never occur due to a similar perfect starting condition, and while choices will be made, the possibility of making a sinful choice never occurs due to an initial starting condition (all powerful, again) that results in an evil-free world with free will (all knowing, after all). This is possible and would allow the Christian god to exist within the framework of a world otherwise like our own, but evidently he has not done so since there is evil and suffering. Why?

(Not to mention "natural evil" exists, such as disease and natural disasters. These are definitely were out of the control of man even hundreds of years ago, and even today are largely uncontrollable/unpreventable [though I suppose while we can cause earthquakes and engineer diseases and negatively affect the climate, we definitely can't stop the tectonic movement that would cause earthquakes regardless or prevent the evolution of bacteria that would happen regardless, etc]).

And yes, there is the abstract idea of choice in these ideal worlds. In the world where sin is an option but we never choose to sin does not lessen the impact of the good/non-sinful choice. It's unnecessarily arbitrary and incorrect to reason or claim that people must make sinful choices for the Christian god to exist. And the other world where a sinful option never presents itself does not invalidate the Christian god either, just as Morgan Freeman not being the Democrat candidate in the 2008 presidential elections did not invalidate the choices of Americans to elect a president in 2008...

So since there is evil in this world, that means the Christian god (to exist) must be some combination of all powerful, all knowing, and perfectly good, but not all three... which contradicts what the Christian god is according to the Christian belief system. Unless there's an interpretation that the Christian god has the ability to be evil and has done so? Or the Christian god is not all knowing or all powerful? And the Christian god can't be all powerful but not all knowing (since if he were all powerful he could therefore will himself to be all knowing). Those would not remotely common beliefs, however, and therefore irrelevant to the majority...

The other issues include the effectiveness of prayer and such, but the post is too long so I'll leave that for now.

(And arguments like "look in your heart" or "you'll see/feel the truth when you open your [mind/heart/soul]" and whatever else are incredibly terrible. I most definitely have more proof of eldritch beings manipulating my life than you have of the Christian influencing your life, but at least I'm aware that it's much more likely my proof is complete coincidence and such thought processes are as a result of a sickness. Those making similar arguments for the Christian god generally have no excuse.)