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Alvorien - Dragon
Mordredd
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December 2004
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Analogue to the other threads here is a sketch of Alvorien. Like in the previous posts, I am looking for comments and advice.

http://www.jray.de/dragon.jpg

ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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Awww... being a Dragonlance dude, I like it! But it is strange it has no wings, though.

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Richard Phipps
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November 2001
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That looks good. I like the pose. I'd lengthen the tail and neck myself as he looks a bit squat at the moment. :)

Specter Phoenix
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July 2001
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It's a rough sketch so maybe he will add wings later;).

OICW
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November 2003
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This looks as I imagine dragon :)

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Mark Oates
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Another great one. I think it's better without wings -- have it fly through the air like a snake swimming in the watter. 8-)

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Archon
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January 2004
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Another great one. I think it's better without wings -- have it fly through the air like a snake swimming in the watter.

You can swim in the air? Let me try that. ::)

ReyBrujo
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You haven't understood what he said ::)

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Billybob
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January 2003

He looks fat.

Paul whoknows
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Looks nice, like a real dragon, but I don't like pencil, can you use a black ink pen (chinesse ink) instead? sorry ;D

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Rampage
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December 2002
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Great one Micah! :)

I like big, muscular European dragons more than those weird Chinese ones.

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I don't like pencil, can you use a black ink pen (chinesse ink) instead?

Ink and pencils both can create beautiful effects when used properly.

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flares
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April 2003
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i know its off topic but.

jorram said:

I like big, muscular European dragons more than those weird Chinese ones.


funny both european and chinese have references to the same create makes me wander if they were ever really existed. and if they did how did they breath fire?

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Archon
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makes me wander if they were ever really existed.

You haven't seen a REAL dragon before? :o

Billybob
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January 2003

It was probably some dinosaur, and it's really bad breath was mistaken for breathing fire.

EDIT: Of course, it's not like Europeans didn't have contact with Chinese. They traded silk and junk.

Rampage
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AFAIK Chinese dragons were representations of rivers and other flows of water, and that's the reason they're snake-like. European dragons appeared in greek, roman and norse traditions and sometimes are like snakes, others are like big lizards.

Maybe all those stories come from a much earlier, common myth about the fear to snakes and reptiles.

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m c
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December 2004
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i'd imagine a dragon as some kind of vertically-oriented type thing;

like something that has big sharp claws as it's (two) feet and like a t-rex almost only with enormous wings that kinda cover most of the body... that would be cool (in my opinion). Yeah, either that or the snake type dragon. that lizard-type dragon seriously would have to be my least-favourite but hay dragons are dragons, they're still cool.

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Trezker
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December 2001
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Vertical

This one's vicious

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I love the concept of dragons, but I find it pretty hard to find a picture of one that suits my imagination of what a dragon should look like.

gnolam
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funny both european and chinese have references to the same create makes me wander if they were ever really existed. and if they did how did they breath fire?

Cultural cross-bleed, plus that it's a concept that isn't that hard to come up with. Note that the modern concept of a dragon isn't necessarily the old local concept of it... (in most old European dragon myths, the dragons were basically just big-ass serpents)
It's the same with vampires and werewolves - many cultures have a kind of vampire, and almost every one has some kind of animal transformation myth. Just like with dragons though, fiction has blended them together and made a single homogenous horror-novel-and-Hollywood version...

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EDIT: Of course, it's not like Europeans didn't have contact with Chinese. They traded silk and junk.

And diseases.

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Ron Ofir
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I love that dragon! His fatness really fits in there.

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ReyBrujo
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January 2001
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Check Larry Elmore site.

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OICW
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I like John Avon from fantasy artists, unfortunately he's drawing most of all lands :(

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Eradicor
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Oh no.. not another sketch thread... get over these Alvorien sketches.
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I like John Avon from fantasy artists, unfortunately he's drawing most of all lands

Around here, John Avon lands sell for like ten times the price of normal lands... (which isn't much to begin with, of course.)

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Here it doesn't matter whether it's from Avon or not it's sold for 5Kc. Anyway it doesn't matter for me, because I gave up playing M:tG.

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Mordredd
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Ok, regarding the comments you made, here is a new suggestion, which is slightly different from the sketch:

http://www.jray.de/dragon2proc.jpg

Sorry, but the colored version is not cleaned yet.

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