Money I need on a one-year time horizon I never keep in stocks. Longer-term savings I'm not that worried about, just gotta wait it out. Good time to invest a bit over time now when the buying is cheap.

Yup, cages built by Obama to house criminals who illegally enter the country. Because that's what you do with criminal, you put them in cages.

The LEGAL immigrants have no such problems. They enter and are welcome, and it is not "bullshit", like it or not, these are the facts. And as I already stated, every president in my living memory has been against illegal criminals and I can post the videos of them all saying that if you wish. Do you deny this as well?

And as I already said, the first lady is herself an immigrant, that fact alone proves you wrong and shows that Trump literally loves immigrants! He married one! And many more support him (the legal ones who respect the laws of the nation they wish to enter).

As for Canada, we have similar problems with them coming in here. But in any event, I have every right to voice my opinion Edgar.

Bill Clinton from 1995 speaking out against illegal immigrants...

Obama speaks out against illegal immigrants.

Immgrant husband and wife who support Trump's wall...

On a different topic. If you're nervous about the whole virus scare, or anything else in life. Keep the following scripture in mind (also note the verse numbers). I know I have been helped in some fantastic ways I won't go into here as I have already (and been mocked for it), but I still wish to post something as I don't believe in hiding my faith.

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The idea being wherever you live of course. I know I have been. I used to be type 2 diabetic. I haven't taken meds for it for five years now. My doctor didn't like it, but I went on faith, prayer etc.

Sadly, my older brother trusted in doctors and their pills, he had type 2, went to type 1 and died three years ago.

I'll trust God. He has already helped me with this and much much more I could explain and be mocked for.

There is no difference between "legal" and "illegal" immigrants when that distinction is completely arbitrary.

NiteHackr, next time you come to the US, I hope they put you in a dirty, crowded cage with nothing to sleep on, no hygiene and poor food. Would serve you right.

Trump is not a "champion of immigrants", he is a HYPOCRITE.

raynebc, are you a woman? Have you ever been pregnant? What gives you the right to decide what to do with other people's bodies?

Faith is one thing, but faith without works is DEAD. Just believing God will save you from everything is blind ignorance, and is not what he would want you to do. He would want you to take action. He would want you to listen to science. But you know, you do you.

LennyLen, I'm glad you're okay Buddy.

Edgar, what right do you have to say women should be allowed to murder their offspring? Are you a human? Do you have morals?

raynebc, your mother brought you kicking and screaming into this world, and its her right to take you out of it.

If thine eye offends thee, pluck it out.

You should be lucky you're not a pregnant mother faced with a decision that will affect the rest of her life.

And if you're gonna argue that fertilized embryos are human beings too, then you can stuff it.

I think if she killed him now she would be tried for first degree premeditated murder.

Corpses do not have any rights. There are laws to restrict what we can do to corpses, not to protect the corpses, but to protect the state of mind of their loved ones (or to protect society from who you might become if left unchecked).

Personally, I would be in favour of turning all of our dead into organ donors and donations to science. It's just going to rot in the ground anyway, or vaporize and pollute our air. It might as well do some good instead.

A fetus has no autonomy whatsoever. Take the mother away and the fetus cannot exist. Take the fetus away and the mother can remain perfectly fine (arguably, her physical condition will improve in fact). It's pretty fucking obvious which one of them deserves to override the other one.

I think you need to seriously reconsider your logic. It's faulty.

Ideally the father is married to the mother and if they decide to abort it will be a mutual decision. A wife aborting a baby without the father's approval is probably a matter for divorce court.

That said, should a father be able to force a woman to be pregnant that does not wish to be pregnant? No, not at all. That's completely irrational. Why would you want to? You want the mother of your child to be unfit or unprepared or just not wanting the child? Children require two parents to be happy and healthy (that's a generalization so don't waste anybody's time with exceptions). Single-parent families are much more likely to produce criminals and people suffering from other social issues (and typically taking it out on society).

If your wife (or partner, or lay) says they don't want to follow through with a baby that you want then you should be accepting that you've made a mistake and moving on. You can always have a baby with another woman. There are plenty of fish in the sea. No harm done. You have absolutely no grounds to force those 9+ months on her. Pregnancy is hard work, mentally draining, extremely unpleasant, and potentially deadly. It can only produce magic for people that want it. For anyone else it fucking ruins their life. And more, I think it's reasonable to conclude that a person's DNA is also something that they should have a say in. With the knowledge to end a pregnancy with few or no side effects we absolutely must make the option available to people, without shame or stigma.

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I don't know how to understand your position without assuming insecurity with finding a mate, and wanting for success to mean just one night of luck. Which is pretty pathetic. But also pretty irrational... Women generally want babies. It's men that don't. And there is no shortage of wild women looking in all the wrong places for mates. Babies are pretty much all win for women (most of the time). It gets them out of the workforce, taken care of, and brings meaning to their lives. Not ideal for a woman that is bound to be a millionaire CEO or tradesperson, but for the average woman bound to be a cashier at Target or an office worker it's great. Babies are theoretically great for men too, but only if they come at a time when they're ready for them.

All that I know is we got a puppy almost 3 months ago, and it's been hell (but also kind of nice). I can no longer sleep. I wake up around 6 AM every day and cannot sleep longer. I try to be in bed by 9:30 at the latest. It is stressing my psychology. I still enjoy it. Dogs are great. And I love him. But he's also a lot of work and frustrating.

Disregard me, I'm stoned. It's a minigame with a provocative name... Welp, I'm sure it's fine.

I think you'll find that most pro-abortion people agree with you there. Where the disagreement lies is in what the definition of a human is.

Nobody said anything about forcing a woman to become pregnant. Shit happens. Condoms break or semen slips by. Birth control doesn't always work either. The only way to guarantee no baby is no sex. That might work well for losers, but for the rest of us we want to have recreational sex with no intention of reproducing!

Not at all. It's acknowledged, but it's not an ideal scenario for many couples. The woman still has to go through the hard work of pregnancy, and there are still risks for her health associated with the pregnancy. That's a pretty major burden to put on yourself for no return. It's an option, but it's not the only one or even the best one for many couples.

Terminating a pregnancy does very little harm. Almost negligible. The worst harm that it can do is emotional trauma for the parents, but it's up to the individual parents whether or not it's right for them. They have a choice. Nobody is forcing them to abort. If they decide that abortion is right for them then they can choose to live with the consequences. Just as parents that choose to go through with the birth have to live with the consequences (which are often horrible).

Birth isn't without its own risks. It's common for women to experience depression or other mental health disorders after birth. And there are physical risks as well.

The religious nuts like to pretend that the fetus is somehow a "magical" entity. Some sort of life force allocated directly by God. Something sacred. It's none of those things. It's just a collection of organic cells. There's no special meaning there. It's just another living organism. We kill those all the time. It doesn't take magic to make one. Literally any stupid fuck on the planet can make one, and the act doesn't have to be "wholesome" in any way (usually it's not). In the vast majority of pregnancies two people were fucking for fun, and oops it took. Many of these people are unfit to be parents. Many of them are unstable. Many of them don't know their partners' last name, let alone whether they're compatible with each other long term or not.

We put value on human life because humans are intelligent beings. They are conscious of their existence, and experience pain, trauma, and loss. They form bonds with other humans, and when a human that you have formed a bond with passes a way it impacts everybody whose lives they have touched.

My fetus doesn't automatically get to have that status just because you say so. Fuck you. Whether or not that fetus has any value to me is MY decision, not yours. If it's nothing but a bag of shit to me then I can choose to throw it away. End of story. Nobody hurt. Nothing lost. Just one of several possible outcomes. The universe couldn't care less. It's no more sacred than killing cattle or a cat or a mouse or a mosquito. It has the potential to turn into a human being, but it isn't one yet. And if it's prevented from becoming one then it won't ever know the difference.

There are some 8 billion known human beings currently in existence. It is estimated that approximately 100 billion more have lived and died. Those 100 billion people no longer exist. They can't feel anything. They can't be in pain. They can't be lonely. They don't feel regrets. They cease to exist. Similarly, within each living human there is the potential to create anywhere from hundreds of new humans to millions. Those billions more people that are never formed from those gametes do not feel anything. They never existed.

A fetus is not conscious of its existence. I don't remember being conscious of my existence until I was at least 2 or 3 years old. Prior to that if you had painlessly terminated my life it wouldn't have mattered any to me. And it only would have mattered to family and friends because they were given 2 or 3 years to get to know me and become invested in me. If you had instead terminated me before anybody other than my parents even knew that I was starting to form then literally nobody would miss me (assuming my parents didn't want me).

Your argument basically boils down to, "I believe fetuses are special and therefore you must do as I say with yours!"

To which I say, eat a bag of dicks!